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What makes people call Obama 'socialist?'
As i'm sure you all know, Barrack Obama has been called a socialist by many, this is seen on the mainstream media-some of the reporters of which call him a socialist and show other people calling him a socialist. (Go figure.) But facts conflict with this claim; he supports the free market, and his advisors are supporters of the free market. Wall St. gives him as much contribution as they do McCain, if not more. (though I have actually heard it is in fact more.) So, what I am asking, in what policies, if any, do these claims originate? Why exactly do they call him a socialist when he is in fact a capitalist? Not to mention calling Venezuela a 'rogue state.'
If you ask me, I think the whole thing is staged; this B.S about him being a 'socialist' is to further the idea that they are in fact ideologically conflicting when they really serve the same interests. It's a fuckin' puppet show, folks! But that's just me.
"I think it's just Right-Wing radicals and stealth republicans who call Obama socialist, hoping it will cause people to vote for McCain instead.
Obama does support some things that are associated with socialism - just as the tax-funded Social Security that the US has (and has had for a long time) is socialistic (which is why Bush tried to privatize it).
But just as the US is not a socialist nation because it has tax-funded Social Security, so is Obama not a socialist just because he wants to lower taxes for the poor and the middle class and raise taxes on the rich.
To put in another way: if Obama is a socialist because of his promised tax- and healthcare policies, then Bush is a socialist for bailing out the failed financial institutions, and the US is socialist because it still has some social programs that are not run for profit."
If you ask me, I think the whole thing is staged; this B.S about him being a 'socialist' is to further the idea that they are in fact ideologically conflicting when they really serve the same interests. It's a fuckin' puppet show, folks! But that's just me.
"I think it's just Right-Wing radicals and stealth republicans who call Obama socialist, hoping it will cause people to vote for McCain instead.
Obama does support some things that are associated with socialism - just as the tax-funded Social Security that the US has (and has had for a long time) is socialistic (which is why Bush tried to privatize it).
But just as the US is not a socialist nation because it has tax-funded Social Security, so is Obama not a socialist just because he wants to lower taxes for the poor and the middle class and raise taxes on the rich.
To put in another way: if Obama is a socialist because of his promised tax- and healthcare policies, then Bush is a socialist for bailing out the failed financial institutions, and the US is socialist because it still has some social programs that are not run for profit."
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Permalink Reply by rspwan on -
I think it's just Right-Wing radicals and stealth republicans who call Obama socialist, hoping it will cause people to vote for McCain instead.
Obama does support some things that are associated with socialism - just as the tax-funded Social Security that the US has (and has had for a long time) is socialistic (which is why Bush tried to privatize it).
But just as the US is not a socialist nation because it has tax-funded Social Security, so is Obama not a socialist just because he wants to lower taxes for the poor and the middle class and raise taxes on the rich.
To put in another way: if Obama is a socialist because of his promised tax- and healthcare policies, then Bush is a socialist for bailing out the failed financial institutions, and the US is socialist because it still has some social programs that are not run for profit.
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Permalink Reply by Jesse G on -
Exactly, it's fuckin' ad hominem bullshit with no factual basis.
Good response.
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Permalink Reply by rspwan on
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Yeah, although calling me "kid" is also ad hominem; it suggests i'm much younger than you (while probably the reverse is true), and therefor much less experienced and much less knowledgeable than you.
Not much insult taken, but it's a variation of "argument by authority".
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Permalink Reply by Jesse G on
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dude...that, too, was a joke...i've called people older than me kid, just as a joke, just because the words sound funny. Perhaps I could not have expected you to know this, so yeah, it was a joke. i meant nothing by it. Certainly not 'argument by authority.' i know what that means, and believe me, I was not doing it.
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Permalink Reply by Jesse G on
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Well you weren't being negative, what I meant was that it seemed our enemyship (not a word, but who cares) was in the past.
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Permalink Reply by Jesse G on
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I did notice that, and I do appreciate that. Naw, like, when you mentioned that I do that i took as suggesting i still do that, or something. Anyways. Alirght, cool. *shakes hand*
And I do apologize for being a jerk before. -
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