Scientific Research & Self-Development Activism
My last discussion post sparked quite a lot of discussion recently {mostly outside of the thread itself, lol} about the significance and utility of celebrity status (and not just the Hollywood kind) in raising awareness and bringing attention to important issues and worthy causes. Now my mind is a little jumbled up about all of this right now, so forgive me before I start, but I'm generally trying to get a feel for what the best way would be (in a very practical sense) to actually achieve a type of celebrity status online for the purpose of accomplishing such things.
{I.e., raising peoples awareness of important issues, etc.}
Now obviously Chiren & Reese and the other members of the original I-Power "Crew" like Tania & Dean, etc. chose to utilize YouTube to gain the majority of their audience, (or fans;) but there are lots of other popular people out there who have taken different paths. Some people achieve their celebrity status offline first, whether it be in politics or elsewhere, and then establish an online presence afterward, or perhaps along the way. Others somehow manage to become successful bloggers, or to establish popular websites without doing videos at all; and still others manage to gain a bit of notoriety by simply becoming popular contributors on public sites; and etc. The list could go on, and there are many different examples and possibilities.
The thing that hit me today, and which prompted me to write this post, was the thought / acknowledgement that most people out there in this world really do not have a lot of time to spend online because of jobs and families and such, and so they naturally tend to funnel and focus the time that they do have into a very few limited activities, and that makes it very difficult for anybody online to get {and maintain} their attention. Which, to me, automatically begs the very practical question of: What is the best online platform to use if you really want to maximize your chances of getting the crap that you throw out noticed? lol
So, cast your vote y'all. What's your opinion on this? If I wanted to become a star, or to have some success with a startup website, etc., what's the best place to get noticed online?
Is it YouTube? Reddit? Twitter? Facebook? Something else?
Oh! and money is not important for the purposes of this question. I know that some people would be interested in the answers for that reason, but for me it is strictly about how to best bring peoples attention to things that I think they need to know more about.
Thanks in advance for your input and opinions. ;-)
Permalink Reply by Nathan Davies on July 26, 2012 at 3:05pm The magic will be finding a way to be entertaining like Athene is. Many of us are kinda "straight laced" by nature and being flamboyant isn't in our nature. Shane Dawson and RWJ are good studies in how to succeed at the game. I'm curious if being "star quality" can be learned or if it is something that you have to be born with.
Perhaps that's what separates the successful from the unsuccessful? Personally I believe/hope that anyone can acquire the skill of being an entertaining person, but I don't guess there's really any proof of that. :)
Permalink Reply by SparTom007 - Tom on July 27, 2012 at 12:05pm I don't think "success" on any media should be compared with the likes of RWJ and Shane Dawson because of the massive amount of luck involved with their channels. Furthermore, RWJ's idea is, although excellently executed, is based on stealing viral content and putting it together, something many others have been doing for years too.
Even the Athene crew admits there was a hell of a lot of luck in getting them where they are today, although I am quite sure they would have been noticed eventually. Anyway, point is, you don't have to look that high up or look at those examples for guidance because they will most likely lead to disappointment as the appearance of their success is misleading. If your content is good, you will rise extremely slowly. Virality however, can be looked at with case studies ;)
As for becoming a star, I've noticed, personally, I enjoy personality in many of the channel identities I view frequently. In your video, sorry for the criticism, it was kinda noticeable that you were trying to be funny, and then in the outtakes video, as everyone agreed, you were genuinely funny and entertaining- because it was natural.
Maybe you're not the star for ipower, but you can entertain just naturally when you don't try too hard :)
btw I think another problem we have here is geography :P
let's say shiznits dreams come true and he is the new athene, with march as his bitch tania and me as his bitch furious xD how would we make videos of that? :P
*Keeping this discussion alive cos it would be nice to see more opinions :D*
Moderation Note: Shiznit never said that he ever wanted to be the new Athene!
In fact, he has always said just the opposite -- that he didn't want to be a celebrity or an entertainer. Tom intended this to be a form of sarcastic, negative-humor; and we're just clarifying this so that people won't misunderstand what he said.
Permalink Reply by Nathan Davies on July 27, 2012 at 3:12pm I'm just a simple man, trying to solve a complex problem. Sorry I haven't risen to your standards. LOL
Luck, maybe. The beginning of the Athene persona was luck, but there's nothing about what they've done since that's luck. They've carefully crafted their channel/online footprint for maximum effectiveness. Any time you hear Reese or Athene say the work luck, translate it into "countless hours of planning/work we that we want you to believe was easy for us."
and frankly, I doubt Shiz wants to be Athene... But if he even tried it would be some good shit. ;)
Permalink Reply by The Shiznit on July 27, 2012 at 10:34pm How about this for a YouTube celebrity persona:
Shiznit -- The Worst Loser in the World!!!
I could do videos of me playing all kinds of games and getting my ass kicked and losing all the time. Rage-quitting, and cussing up a storm, etc. XD
Permalink Reply by Marko Bilić on July 28, 2012 at 4:08pm Well I actually think that people would find an old dude playing games and raging hilarious XD
Permalink Reply by The Shiznit on August 4, 2012 at 6:13am
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