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C=hf break down.
"C=hf is a fundamental mathematical equation" - Reese
E=hf, if C = hf then C = E.
Consciousness IS energy.
C=mc^2
C(phi) = Hamiltonian(phi)
Delta(C)Delta(t) > h/2
Ckinetic = 1/2mv^2
delta(C) = work
So on and so forth...
Consequentially if consciousness IS energy then everything is conscious! Wait a minute... No, that can't be right. I am fairly certain this pen in front of me isn't conscious, nor the chair I'm sitting or the computer I am typing with. Maybe they are conscious but at such a low level we can't detect it! I mean, I am and use more energy then my computer, my pen, or my chair. So maybe things that require and contain more energy are conscious. Wait a minute... No, that can't be right, I mean look at the sun and the energy it contains, uses, and produces on a daily bases yet it is not conscious. So C = hf huh?
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Permalink Reply by Reese Leysen on -
No, I fully absorbed what you posted and think it's a valuable point to add. (I just wish you weren't such a jerk in discussions)
But whether it's an emergent property or not, take for the example of the cat you mentioned, this 'cat' still emerges from the same building blocks. This means, to give just one example, that if it takes a certain amount of neural activity for the cat to have one moment of say conscious perception, then an outside observer will see that the amount of time necessary for that to occur will depend on the speed at which the cat is moving, relative to his own. This may be very obvious, but it has incredible implications, some of which are talked about in the documentary.
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Permalink Reply by Angelino 'Pino' Desmet on -
Just look at life as one big dream. You can't prove it can't be so.
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Permalink Reply by Marc Menard on -
Nobody can prove a negative claim. The one making the claim must supply the proof. This is an important concept when dealing with proving anything.
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Permalink Reply by AmazingBacon on -
Chiren = having fun and also define consciousness.
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Permalink Reply by Cody on -
Consciousness is exclusive and emergent. Only systems capable of organizing,transmitting,and adapting to information provided to them can be considered couscous. We as humans have brains,Which is really a specialized network of neurons doing those three things, but with very specific reactions to information given. Consciousness is not merely energy, it's an emergence property, a name given to the problem solving system of signaling neurons in your head.
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Permalink Reply by Jarod Phillip Benowitz on -
Finally someone that has some sense... lol. Conscious is perhaps one of the most unique properties of life and thus must emerge from such complexity unlike any other in the known universe. Each neuron is connected to approximately 10,000 other neurons, and with 100 billion neurons in the brain thats 10^15 total connections. So how many possible pathways are their roughly in the brain? (10^15)! is the answer and its non-computable, thats the complexity of the human brain. Energy is completely irrelevant to the emergent property and so are the building blocks.
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To imply that your memories are carried over through death is nothing but idiotic, and if they arent- there isnt an afterlife for me, so it's in my rational ridiculously far fetched as a concept even disregarding the lack of actual reason to believe such specific and anthropomorphical things about death.
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"which is why I do not hold either as true because neither of the two can be verifiable"
I think it's fully verifiable that memories are only physical entries in a physical database and that when we die they degrade to the point where the information is no longer readable in the same way that it was previously
establishing that memories do not carry over through death then there's no afterlife for me or you- whatever carries on will be something completely different to the point where saying that there's an afterlife FOR me or you is meaningless and death would ultimatly BE a final end for me or you since what would carry on after wouldnt BE what me and you are or were in any meaningful sense.
I'd love to change my opinion about any of this I'm just explaining why I'm having problems keeping an open mind about this subject.
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Permalink Reply by Wise on
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Buddhism has a lot of really practical theory on the mind, like ego-teaching and such.
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Permalink Reply by Wise on
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personally I dislike people clumping together simple mechanical functions like "thinking" and consciousness, the part about consciousness that's a "mystery" is the part where we actually EXPERIENCE what's going on in the way we do, and I think that's the part that's hard to explain just by saying "oh it's a bunch of neurons communicating".
I think the EXPERIENCING/OBSERVING part of consciousness is something more fundamental, but I think you need to sort out this part from the specifics of the human consciousness which we attribute so many antropomorphical properties to as if those were the important parts and then write the whole thing off just because you can explain THOSE specific properties disregarding the part that's actually interresting.
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Permalink Reply by Yoel ben Yehuda on -
I love this. It is one of my favorite equations. Hell, it is my only favorite equation.
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