Observation

My personal observation, and how i see that any kind of real life "party" i try to attend to follows same  pattern. You talk useless crap, you drink/smoke, you may or may not get laid.

If party is around age 28-30 then the useless crap is about kids, and your boss. If around 20s then its about pop music or some other friends gf or whatever

but nearly 99% of them end up that people are too drunk or too stonned

Questions

...So, what if you dont drink, dont smoke? are there any people like me out there that find it shitlessly boring to attend any party? Because ether people drop drunk directly, or try to ask the standard "what you do, where you live" questions before doing so.

Me
and no, i dont live in a basement, i look quite OK, i got (almost) a degree, and i did drink, smoked and all that...

But i find that people are pretty damn stupid ...and i dont want to get kids just so i can "talk about my kids". Or get back to get stoned/drunk so i can talk how STONED/DRUNK i was LAST time with some 20y olds

crisis? :p

anyone like me out there? how do you survive without "real brain food" on pure none-alcoholic benefits? how do i find someone i can hold conversation with that actually challenge my self, my knowledge and we share something worth sharing?

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I love someone whose mind works like mine.  Welcome to I-Power, Ben!  

The manufacture & sale of alcoholic beverages is big business, everywhere; and the companies who make all those beers & liquors spend a huge amount of money in the media and advertising trying to make drinking and partying look like an enjoyable and appealing activity.  It's very difficult to avoid being brainwashed into associating alcohol with having fun when we are all being constantly bombarded every day with imagery that makes it look that way.  Think about it for a minute... What in hell does beer have to do with sports?  You're not going to be able to be a competitive athlete if you drink alcohol, so beer and sports are 2 things that should never logically be associated with each other!  lol

The trick is in realizing what's going on and becoming consciously aware of it, because once you can "see" The Matrix...  well, you get the idea.  :-)

Nice reply all of you =), thanks. Got something to think about.

I only have two friends that host parties regularly. One I refuse to attend; They listen to shitty music, spend their night obsessing over beer pong and pretending that their lives contain some form of compelling drama. Often, they treat each other like dirt, and refuse to talk about anything above the mundane topics you're complaining about.

The other friend actually hosts parties that I really enjoy attending, but usually miss due to my schedule and these distance between our homes. There is always a barrel fire in his back yard, and the people he invites love delving into subject matter that an unfortunate number people feel compelled to avoid. We discuss and we argue: Politics, philosophy, religion, and experience. I enjoy it, its something I have trouble experiencing in person anywhere else. I don't necessarily trust these people though, so there is a degree of discomfort. I drink, but avoid other mind altering drugs, and it can be frustrating because there are times when we'll come out of a conversation having really gained something  only for them to go smoke up because the nature of our conversation apparently requires it in order to properly digest everything that was said. That's their excuse at least.

Mostly I drink at home and invite two or three friends over who will provide me with stimulating conversation and not cause me any form of discomfort.I definitely like to drink though, I'm very reserved when I'm sober and alchohol makes it a littler easier to bridge the gap between reserved conversation and stimulating conversation.

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Large gatherings of people without some form of social lubricant, be it some kind of inebriation or an attraction of common interest such as a concert or convention, are almost always a drag. Destinations are good. I don't like to get together to play video games - a destination provides me with something out the usual to do, and I can share that with friends. Having friends with similar interests makes non-intoxicated interaction enjoyable as well. I do many things but I like to write, and I like philosophy. I create and I think. I like to hang out with other creators to share our work with one another and to bounce ideas off of one another. I like to hang out with other thinkers because we often have fresh perspectives to provide one another with when it comes to whatever has the focus of our attention lately. I don't have television, so gatherings at my apartment are always in my living room with my couch and several chairs facing each other in a circle.

So potential solutions to your problem are to find people with similar interests, to do things with your friends that involve a destination, and to avoid the watching TV or playing video games with them.

Been to a party last weekend for the first time in uhm... 6months or so.
I hope it ain't a good reference for parties in Belgium, since i saw at least twice the drug use i'm used to see in the netherlands.

I rarely drink in public and i normally do not do drugs.

The reason i go to parties isn't because i enjoy the company, cause most of the time, i don't. I go for the music, for dancing from dusk till dawn and feeling great about being me. (which i lack as soon as i have to talk)

I think about going to stupid movies with piano guidance, it sounds like fun. I find it really hard to socialize with people in a different country.
But i prefer nights with campfires or boardgames over any party.

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