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Stigma of mental illness
I'd like to discuss the topic of mental illness. Particularly the stigma involved with it. I was diagnosed with schizo-affective disorder a few years ago and I've been trying to deal with that ever since. Currently I'm at my 3rd or 4th clinic in about the same amount of years and I still haven't found a suitable medication. I've also done research and the state I live in (Indiana) has some of the worst mental health treatment in the nation. Anyway, I think the worst part of having this illness is dealing with the stigma I face. I've been called crazy by my family and friends and some of the worst stigma I face is from the doctors and therapists that I am forced to work with. I really can't talk about a whole lot as all they do is take things I say out of context to make it out so that I'm crazy. I suppose that is their job. *facepalm*
Tags: bipolar, illness, mental, schizophrenia, stigma
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Permalink Reply by steven.a.a.bauer on -
It's difficult. I either have something similar to this or mild hypochondria because I'm always checking myself for mental disorders...but then paranoia and schizophrenia runs in the family. Often times, things are diagnosed, rediagnosed, misdiagnosed, and just missed because there aren't really black and white answers as of yet. I hope one day they do create a better way to diagnose because it could help a lot of people (in getting accurate diagnosal and finding effective medication and therapy). They are looking into this and other forms of mental illness. Hang in there. You're not alone.
http://www.ted.com/talks/jon_ronson_strange_answers_to_the_psychopa...I know this is cheesy... but if it helps: "Do your best and forget the rest." -Tony Horton
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Permalink Reply by Lore on -
Thanks for posting steven. I am pretty disgusted by the psychiatric "profession". It isn't even a real medical science as it is very subjective. I'm not exactly the most patient guy but I do hope I can get a good meds combo working for me at the very least. I've been doing yoga for the past 3 years and that has helped me a little bit.
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Permalink Reply by steven.a.a.bauer on
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I posted a TED talk called Jane the Concussion Slayer which might interest you. It suggests techniques which have been found to help build things like emotional resilience, happiness, and perseverance in general...things I would consider to be directly related to patience. It's helped me and my family calm down and while it's not a cure, I can say we do feel better about ourselves and our situation. In my opinion (I'm a mathematician and not a doctor) it's a good thing to remove extra factors which may be leading to an incorrect understanding of the problem and maybe this can help remove some of those factors. I haven't had any adverse side effects from looking at pictures of baby llamas at any rate lol.
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Permalink Reply by Lore on
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I saw that posted. I didn't look into it but now I'll need to check it out.
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Permalink Reply by Bart on -
That story about Tony reminds me of the book "catch 22". The main character claims he is insane so he won`t have to risk his life flying dangerous bombing raids during the 2nd world war. But not wanting to risk his life is a sign of sanity.
You can probably find someone who obviously falls far out what can be seen as normal behavior, like people feeling sexually attracted to dying pigs or something. But when you are in doubt, is it right to start medicating? Or worse, put someone in an insane asylum for 12 years?
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Permalink Reply by Marko Bilić on -
I say fuck 'em all! I've seen some crazy shit in my life, and I can tell you this: everyone's crazy. Everyone.
Don't let this shit get to you. If your mind is set and you know what is right for you, no bullshit doctor or some "normal" person can tell you otherwise.
Trust yourself :D
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Permalink Reply by Lore on
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"everyone's crazy" I agree with this sentiment. My favorite quote by Charlie Manson, and this is on my Facebook page in the about me section is "You know a long time ago being crazy meant something, nowadays everybody's crazy." I have a lot of contempt for what is considered "normal" in society. I do try to distance myself from the thoughts/opinions about me of others but I do struggle with self doubt a lot. I just put a lot of pressure on myself.
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Permalink Reply by The Shiznit on -
"I really can't talk about a whole lot as all they do is take things I say out of context to make it out so that I'm crazy. I suppose that is their job." *facepalm*
Reminded me of some scenes out of a great movie from 1987 called Nuts!, with Barbara Streisand and Richard Dreyfus. In the movie, Streisand plays a woman charged with Manslaughter and her parents and everybody else in the legal "system" try to get her to plead temporary insanity to the charge; but she refuses to do so because she says that she knew exactly what she was doing when she killed the man. The climax comes at the end where she gives a speech about how "I will not be nuts for you!" .. but anyway, the scenes that I was reminded of concern some of the dialogue she had in the movie with the State's psychiatrist, which I'll c&p below:
Script excerpts from the movie, Nuts! (1987)
Francis MacMillan [the prosecutor]: You don't trust me, do you?
Claudia Draper: [scoffs] Are you crazy? Oh, I'm sorry. That's YOUR question, isn't it?
Francis MacMillan: Well, have I ever done anything to harm you?
Claudia Draper: I don't believe this. You're trying to put me away.
Francis MacMillan: You don't believe that I have no personal motive, that I'm just simply doing my job?
Claudia Draper: Your job is to "get" me. Your job is to put me in a hospital. Now, I don't know, maybe I'm dumb, but I take that personally!
Francis MacMillan: You also believe that Dr. Morrison is acting out of personal motive, too, don't you?
Claudia Draper: No, I don't. I'm sure he believes what he believes. He thinks whores are girls who hang out on 8th Avenue and stick needles in their arms. Whores aren't nice white girls from nice white homes. He knows that as sure as he knows his wife is home cleaning the oven.
[to Dr. Morrison - the psychiatrist]
Claudia Draper: Isn't that right, Herbie?
Claudia Draper: But what if he's wrong? What if his wife is out balling the insurance salesman? What if he doesn't know his ass from his elbow? What if he's just an asshole with the power to lock me up? What if that's all he is? An asshole with power...
Dr. Hebert A. Morrison [the psychiatrist]: Do you think I'm one of the guys trying to put you away?
Claudia Draper: They don't pay you to turn me loose, do they?To watch the full movie, you can check here: http://www.1channel.ch/watch-4412-Nuts
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Permalink Reply by Lore on
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That dialogue was pretty funny Shiz. It sounds like an interview with Charlie Manson. Manson is my favorite psychopath.
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Permalink Reply by maikel de haar on -
i got diagnosed with ad(h)d a while ago. I knew for some time i had something, but the moment i was diagnosed with it made it worse. Because now i know what i have and im constantly paying attention to it wich is a total mindfuck for sure. I think ur beliefs have alot to do with it. Its pretty much similar to a placebo (nocebo)effect. There are tons of examples of people who got diagnosed with and illness and gotten worse ever since.
I got some very interesting video(wich might help you a lil bit) of a biologist who talks about how ur belief system can cure ur make you sicker.
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Permalink Reply by Lore on
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Maikel, I doubt you have ADD. Especially if the diagnosis was given in the 90's. I was diagnosed with it too and hopped up on Ritalin for most of my schooling/indoctrination attempts. I have read into it and long term use of Ritalin can cause psychotic behavior. I had a buddy of mine who I met my freshman year of high school who was on Ritalin as well. We both went psychotic together. I think he is more of a borderline psychopath than ADD. I'll need to watch that video when I have time. I've been under a lot of stress so I need to try to prioritize my activities more these days.
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Permalink Reply by maikel de haar on
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no lore im not diagnosed in the 90s but more like 1 month ago, but damn i will reconsider if i will take ritalin.I will do better research for sure. Maybe i only take it before i have to study very hard.
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