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Conversation with professor and Einstein
TAKE TIME TO READ. It's worth reading it. Trust me :)
Professor : You are a Christian, aren’t you, son ?
Student : Yes, sir.
Professor: So, you believe in GOD ?
Student : Absolutely, sir.
Professor : Is GOD good ?
Student : Sure.
Professor: Is GOD all powerful ?
Student : Yes.
Professor: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to GOD to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But GOD didn’t. How is this GOD good then? Hmm?
(Student was silent.)
Professor: You can’t answer, can you ? Let’s start again, young fella. Is GOD good?
Student : Yes.
Professor: Is satan good ?
Student : No.
Professor: Where does satan come from ?
Student : From … GOD …
Professor: That’s right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?
Student : Yes.
Professor: Evil is everywhere, isn’t it ? And GOD did make everything. Correct?
Student : Yes.
Professor: So who created evil ?
(Student did not answer.)
Professor: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don’t they?
Student : Yes, sir.
Professor: So, who created them ?
(Student had no answer.)
Professor: Science says you have 5 Senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son, have you ever seen GOD?
Student : No, sir.
Professor: Tell us if you have ever heard your GOD?
Student : No , sir.
Professor: Have you ever felt your GOD, tasted your GOD, smelt your GOD? Have you ever had any sensory perception of GOD for that matter?
Student : No, sir. I’m afraid I haven’t.
Professor: Yet you still believe in Him?
Student : Yes.
Professor : According to Empirical, Testable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says your GOD doesn’t exist. What do you say to that, son?
Student : Nothing. I only have my faith.
Professor: Yes, faith. And that is the problem Science has.
Student : Professor, is there such a thing as heat?
Professor: Yes.
Student : And is there such a thing as cold?
Professor: Yes.
Student : No, sir. There isn’t.
(The lecture theater became very quiet with this turn of events.)
Student : Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don’t have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can’t go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.
(There was pin-drop silence in the lecture theater.)
Student : What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?
Professor: Yes. What is night if there isn’t darkness?
Student : You’re wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light. But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and its called darkness, isn’t it? In reality, darkness isn’t. If it is, well you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn’t you?
Professor: So what is the point you are making, young man ?
Student : Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.
Professor: Flawed ? Can you explain how?
Student : Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good GOD and a bad GOD. You are viewing the concept of GOD as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, Science can’t even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing.
Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me, Professor, do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?
Professor: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.
Student : Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?
(The Professor shook his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument was going.)
Student : Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor. Are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher?
(The class was in uproar.)
Student : Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor’s brain?
(The class broke out into laughter. )
Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor’s brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established Rules of Empirical, Stable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says that you have no brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?
(The room was silent. The Professor stared at the student, his face unfathomable.)
Professor: I guess you’ll have to take them on faith, son.
Student : That is it sir … Exactly ! The link between man & GOD is FAITH. That is all that keeps things alive and moving.
P.S.
I believe you have enjoyed the conversation. And if so, you’ll probably want your friends / colleagues to enjoy the same, won’t you?
Forward this to increase their knowledge … or FAITH.
By the way, that student was EINSTEIN.
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Comment by Kokomo on April 16, 2012 at 3:46am -
I look at all of the things here on Earth and there is just, so much order that it makes me think maybe there is a creator with some kind of super consciousness. Yet if there is a creator his origin would be unknown, or he could have come from nothing. Could perhaps everything have come from nothing? I am sure it is possible that the material world that we live in could come from nothing, but I think the thing which came from nothing had much similar design. The complexity of the natural world is to great to be a product of random chance.
One thing I am certain about is that we humans as conscious beings have emotions. Perhaps God also had emotions, and he felt incredibly lonely in the void of nothingness. That is why he made us. If there is one thing any man could fear most it is extreme loneliness.
Emotions sometimes feel just as real as the materialistic world. Perhaps out of love the super conscious mind made us, but to keep us perfect he could not. Like as humans can we be perfect all the time? Sure God boast he is perfect, but maybe the emotions tell another story.
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Comment by The Shiznit on April 16, 2012 at 9:40am -
... but only as a parable.
I've seen this story bounced around in emails for like, forever!
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Comment by Zeb Mattey on April 20, 2012 at 12:30pm -
This is nonsense, and a testament to how people believe anything they are sent. Einstein was not Christian, he was born into a Jewish family, but by the age of 12 he left religion, believing that much of the bible was simple fiction.
Along with this there are a number of flaws in the overall conversation. The biggest, and most ridiculous being:
According to Empirical, Testable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says your GOD doesn’t exist. What do you say to that, son?
NO. Science does not disprove god and makes no such claim, absolute nonsense. This shows a complete misunderstanding of the current state of science and its claims. Science so far offers no concrete proof for the origins of the universe, it does not explain why things are as they are. Neither does it address the issue of conciousness fully. If it cannot answer these questions, then how can it disprove god?
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Comment by Michael V. on April 20, 2012 at 6:00pm -
a very wise conversation in my opinion .. pure truth
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Comment by Lithoniel Rain on April 20, 2012 at 8:52pm -
Sorry but Zeb is right, Einstein wasn't Christian.
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Comment by Kokomo on April 21, 2012 at 1:13am
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Labels do not matter. All that matters is that he believed in God. If he didn't then somebody did. That Somebody mattered.
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Comment by Zeb Mattey on April 21, 2012 at 11:15am
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Labels do matter when an argument is presented in that way. Because there are so many fabrications in the piece it loses all credibility. How can someone be pursuaded by an argument built on falsehoods?
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Comment by Kokomo on April 21, 2012 at 5:58pm
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Idea being based on truth/falsehood depends on the person. It is just that when you read it you see things from a different perspective. You give the words meaning. You are entitled to your own opinion and I agree science does not disprove God, but some people think it does and this conversation is addressed to them. I place value on the idea and not the label. Label is just a name, sure it might give some context, but in this case it is clearly a person who is a theist.
For me I personally Believe God is the supreme consciousness and the universe is body of God.
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Comment by SparTom007 - Tom on April 22, 2012 at 5:04am -
This is one of my favourite stories :) I'm surprised when all the extremely intelligent people I know who are religious don't come at me with this story if we ever converse about religion or philosophy of theism. My counter argument would be simple:
Science doesn't pretend to disprove God or even deny that it's possible God exists, it simply recognises that there is no conclusive evidence for such a being existing. That doesn't necessarily mean that God doesn't exist, it means we don't believe it because we cannot see a reason to believe it yet. If reasonable evidence came along to show evidence for God then a true scientist would believe in God, not because of faith, but because there is proof now.
I don't believe in God because I can't see any evidence of God but if I ever had a religious experience most would attribute to God, it doesn't mean I would believe in God even if I couldn't see any logical evidence for something real. I would simply understand that I don't understand why something happened. Just because I can't explain it, it doesn't mean I can invent an explanation simply so I have one.
I don't think it's wrong to have some thing unexplained, I think we should just try harder to find out instead of just coming up with some explanation based on nothing ie faith. Why don't we just admit "we don't know yet" and accept the possibility that we might never know.
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Comment by SparTom007 - Tom on April 22, 2012 at 5:10am
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*con. on new comment because not sure of ning character limit*
Regarding the question about the professor having a human brain and us having to assume he does on faith is a flawed argument. A scientist as plenty of logical evidence from the past of what a human being looks like and we have come to know as a fact, that humans have brains. Looking at the professor, he looks like a human and shows all the traits of a human, so we can assume he is a human because all of the evidence from the past has shown that if it looks, sounds, smells and feels like a human, it's probably a human; and all humans have brains. Hence that argument is completely invalid and has nothing to do with faith.
If we were going to make such arguments about faith with everything like that in such a pedantic manner, you wouldn't drive your car everyday because you don't know if the engine is there until you look in it. You assume it's there because past experience has shown the car has an engine so it can work. You're not taking it on faith, you're making an assumption based on prior knowledge and experience.Bad example but I can't think of the best way to put it now...
Thoughts and counters? :)
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