Let me first make some things clear
- One of the few people that'd actually discuss or listen to me, not even a direct friend of mine.
- Of coures I'm not 100% accurate, please take this into consideration when you are about to comment on a fact I posted.
- I only post (and translated this for a couple of hours in the middle of the night) because I wanted to discuss some things.

Leave you're interesting ideas on life, study-programme's or anything that you might ask yourself as a comment on this blogpost...
We might just come up with greater ideas.

[14:06:58] Him: DUDE   

[14:07:00] Him: YEAH YOU!

[14:07:07] Him: What’s up, how are you?

[14:07:56] Me: Fine thanks

[14:07:57] Me: you?

[14:08:04] Him: bad

[14:08:09] Him: I have a test tomorrow

[14:08:12] Him: 1. I didn’t enroll myself for it

[14:08:27] Him: 2. This entire week I didn’t do anything for it...

[14:08:30] Him: so now I had to study all day

[14:08:35] Me: :P

[14:09:58] Him: I’m too scared to start up pokerstars too

[14:10:01] Him: because I would make too much money.

[14:10:11] Him: [ ] makes sense

[14:10:12] Him: but yeah.

[14:10:20] Me:  :P

[14:11:25] Him: what’s your schedule for school?

[14:14:49] Me: 8;30 everymorning + I have to travel for like 1,5 hour first.

[14:14:53] Him: LAME

[14:15:02] Him: Do you still own at school?

[14:15:09] Me: No

[14:15:12] Him: LAME

[14:15:17] Me: I may quit tho

[14:15:22] Him: Dude!

[14:15:28] Me: ?

[14:15:28] Him: for realz

[14:15:33] Me: yeah?

[14:15:37] Him: Start focussing man!

[14:15:45] Me: on what?

[14:15:48] Him: Just get that first year down

[14:16:01] Me: Get the fuck out

[14:16:12] Him: okay so what’s your back-up plan then?

[14:16:23] Me: none

[14:16:37] Me: Imma send you something.

[14:16:56] Him: can’t wait!

[14:17:22] Me: *** I send him my complaints about this study about a page long***

[14:19:26] Him: wow

[14:19:32] Him: You really hate this study-programma don’t you

[14:19:44] Me: Obviously, but I could write a longer list about any study…

[14:19:50] Me: Studies tend to fail at their purpose (imo)

[14:19:59] Me:  I understand they can’t fully prepare you for what’s coming but this is ridiculous.

[14:20:33] Me: Even my schedule sucks cock harder than a 48 year old prostitute

[14:20:42] Him: I think every schedule does.

Short: I go to college 4 days a week, 3hours travelling per day. I have a total of 4 useful hours (classes) and about 3,5 hours where I have to attend otherwise I’ll fail a certain subject which is needed to gather enough points to complete the first year.

[14:22:24] Me: And that’s what you pay 1600 € for...

[14:22:31] Him: Yeah it’s ridiculous

[14:22:35] Him: really it is.

[14:22:40] Him: But that’s just how the system works…

[14:22:48] Me:  That 1600 is just what you pay, if you don’t get a degree you’ll have to pay back about 6-12k€ and if you do not graduate within 5 years (4 yr study) you’d have to pay 3k€ extra and 2k€ every year after that (On top of the 1600€)

[14:23:05] Me: America is a bit worse tho, here you’d have about 6-20k spent total (including what government pays to get to that 20k)

[14:23:17] Me: To get a degree in America I think I can safely say that you’d be about 30-100,000$ in debt?
 [14:23:38] Him: lol_amerika

[14:23:56] Me: And I think they scored quite bad with their degrees when compared to other countries’ degrees or education (similar to the American of course)

 [14:24:08] Him: Except for the big universities right?

[14:24:18] Me: What do you mean? ?

[14:24:27] Me: People who go to Harvard or Stanford?

[14:24:31] Him: ehm yeah?
[14:24:43] Him: You’re probably in debt for >100k$ too but yeah

[14:25:16] Me: Of course, they are incredibly smart, but those universities don’t guaranteed that every student is like that. They’re just ivy leagues who got famous for1. Being an ivy league, 2. Became famous for being in movies 3. Sometimes have certain requirements to get in; Intelligence, family(name?), religion, heritage, wether your family has money or not

Sidenote: Not sure wether this is completely accurate or not though.

 [14:25:49] Me: I just think a lot of it (degrees, studies, colleges, universities) is fake.

[14:26:05] Him: Most in America has been privatized right?

[14:26:14] Me: Everything is...

[14:26:20] Him: Yeah precizely.

[14:26:25] Him: Doesn’t seem to work the best if you’d ask me.

[14:26:28] Me: I don’t think so either.

[14:26:48] Me: Odd thing is that they always have the same excuse: “When you compete with other universities you’d always end up with the best because you need to be the best to survive”

[14:26:58] Me: Often doesn’t even work out that way…

[14:27:28] Me: Everything they’ll teach me within the upcoming two years... I could prolly learn that myself within 2 months if I had the right mindset,motivation. And if I felt like it I could spent 1/10^th of the money spend on one year of college now. But like I said I’d need motivation , decent mindset, and persistence.

 [14:28:21] Me: Only reason why I study is because people tell me that I need a degree and because everybody is either stupid enough to believe that or I’m just too ignorant.

Sidenote: I meant that if the whole world believes you’re nothing without a degree I prolly have to get a degree yes

[14:28:27] Him: You’re really willing to give up studying?

[14:28:36] Me: No

[14:28:37] Me: This institute, YES

[14:28:53] Him: What then, study at home?

[14:29:02] Me: I’d love to learn, study and obtain skills. But it has to have purpose, they could just give walk-in classes (Not sure what they are called), where you can just walk into if it interests you and so form/develop your own portfolio of skills. Now we just have a programma that molds you into just another software engineer. Every study does so.

 [14:29:32] Me: Well I might drop out and try to get into Breda, Maybe study Game Production (pretty hardcore, classes in englisch , international students, teachers directly from the gaming industry etc. But there’s a part that involves quite a bit of economics and marketing and I’m having trouble with accepting that. Let alone participate or exercise what I learn there.

 [14:30:08] Him: yeah sure, but do you see the point of it?

[14:30:14] Me: it?

[14:30:18] Him: Ecnomics and marketing

[14:30:24] Me: I understand that companies value it

[14:30:31] Me: And I think I could manage it, complete the course and be done with it

[14:30:37] Me: I just despise the whole concept

[14:30:49] Him: lol yeah same here

[14:31:07] Him: Just had a course on marketingstrategies: “how to tempt your customer into buying your “shit”...”

[14:31:11] Me: Hahahaha yeah I dropped out of Commercial economics and marketing remember? Subjects like Trendwatching, Commercial economics, Marketing, Laws blegh.

 [14:31:39] Me:  They (general people, teachers, graduates) see people in suits, succesful, rich, expensive cars

 [14:32:19] Me: I see, monkeys in a costume in a cage ( what they call office), once their in their homecage, surrounded by their “fence” (house) with a nice expensive swing or two (cars) just to entertain themselves or make themselves feel better. At the cost of others (cause they prolly sold shit to people who didn’t need it or did something similar)

 [14:32:31] Him: LOL

[14:32:36] Me: World seems to exist of monkeys since nobody seems to realize this or doesn’t care.

[14:32:38] Him: You’re fucking right lol :P

[14:32:41] Me: Especially the bankers…

[14:32:53] Me:  /end #Occupy –rant
side note: I did not end my so called #occupy-rant there

[14:32:56] Him: $$$$$$$$ hmm... that’s what it’s all about

[14:33:00] Me: yeah, stupid because money is just something that is made up, enslaved ourselves.

 [14:33:52] Me: and eventually if we would continue on this path there is probably going to be someone who has a monopoly on EVERYTHING, has all power, all wealth, which in 50 years will only be a couple liters of clean drinking water, oil or any other fossil fuel, clean air to breathe (soon we’ll prolly buy tanks of oxygen from those monkeys in costumes) and food.

[14:33:56] Me: Then we start to regret, and get mad about how this could’ve happened.

 [14:34:21] Him: I don’t think we’ll live long enough to endure that…

[14:34:27] Me: And then, we’re just sitting here bitching about swings in poker, not having enough money to drink all the beer you’d like.

[14:34:32] Him: lol

[14:34:35] Me: Does that make it less of a problem ?

[14:34:44] Him: Of course not.

[14:34:57] Me: Every hour 3 species are annihalated , every 5 seconds a kid dies because of poverty
Or as I like to call it, the greed of the more fortunate people who don’t seem to acknowledge that they already got really lucky when they were born in our world and not in some African country where poverty and hunger is.

[14:35:00] Him: Yea you’re right but I’ve stopped thinking about all that, maybe sounds a bit naive or scared but it’ll drive you mad if you think too much about it.

[14:35:27] Me: Americans are now just eating pizza’s because they decided it is a vegetable, while some are in the army and were sent to Irak. In February 2009 it was calculated that it had already cost 2 trillion dollars. That’s a fuckload of money

[14:36:05] Him: ja its crazy

[14:36:13] Him:Especially when you look to what it has done to the world

[14:36:24] Me: Health care industry in amerika spent 1.4$ million every day to defeat health care reform

[14:36:39] Me: Before the Iraq war a barrel of oil was something like 27$? (still a lot ofcourse), now it’s something like 74$?

[14:37:00] Me: And still there are people gaining profit out of this, laughing at the office-monkeys obeying they’re every order, the “sheeple” coping with everything they’ve set up.

 [14:37:38] Me: And then there are people who bitch at me for bitching at a study programma that does not work properly in my opinion?

[14:37:39] Him: sheeple? the sheep people? :P

[14:37:42] Me: yup, following the herd, just doing whateverybody else does.

[14:38:01] Him: The world has become a fucked up place... And it’s great to think about what it could’ve been or could be in the future, but as a single person you can’t do much.

 [14:38:41] Me: I just knew you were going to say something like: “You just can’t do shit on your own if you want to change the world”

 [14:39:10] Him: Well you still have ideals, you could try to convince other people…

 [14:39:55] Me: That’s why the 99%/Occupy-movement may not be as succesful as many people want or wanted… The idea is great and I certainly hope something occurs but right now the monkey-like sheeple-group is just too big…

side note: I sometimes think about how people who are Occupy-ing may just be part of a herd too.
Not sure what to say yet , don’t want to piss anybody off lol.

[14:39:56] Him: You just can’t do much else in the current system, moral of the story is: Just study and get a degree

[14:39:58] Me: NO! Exactly the opposite! GET MAD à http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90ELleCQvew

 [14:45:01] Him: But if you get so much inspiration out of this kind of situations, why don’t you make this your life-mission? Go into politics?

 [14:45:19] Me: :P Lol nah, am though and quick on the internet but that’s about it. IRL not so much.

 [14:47:02] Me: But about politics, I think its sucks (too) because if you join an existing party they’ll fucking tear your ideals apart and once you’re where you wanted to be and tell everybody about your great ideals you have nothing left. If you start your own party, you’ll have start-up problems, you need to be charismatic (I don’t even like to give a presentation in front of my class) and even if you pass that you’ll still be judged. You’re either a right or a left kind of party (bit like Democrats vs republicans) and so the people who are on the opposite site will barely listen to you.

[14:47:26] Me: Kind of funny, do you know Michael Moore? Films documentaries on several things he dislikes in America.

 [14:47:53] Him: Yeah I’ve heard of him.

[14:47:57] Me: Sometimes can be quite controversial, and there are a lot of people who judge him based on what they hear or read about him. So without even read or watch something from Michael Moore himself they already think he’s either a communist, or against America or the anti-christ for saying Bush isn’t right for another 4 years in the white house. Some people act so ignorant or stupid.

 [14:49:54] Me: Dutch may be a little bit more down to earth but still... Sometimes I just have the feeling we’d be better off without those kind of “dumb” people.

 [14:50:20] Him: define dumb

[14:50:54] Me: Shortsighted, don’t seem to be able to listen to simple reasoning because it’s against their ideals or ideas.  Incapable of thinking for themselves.

[14:51:23] Him: That’s just how it is.

 [14:51:50] Me: Imagine what’d be like... No unnecessary waste of resources, no ignorant sheeple. Would be kind of boring tho

[14:52:21] Him: And impossible, kind of waste of time and effort to even think about that.

 [14:53:05] Me: Then what would you call worrying about wether you have enough money to buy another round of beers this weekend? When it’s already waste of time and effort to think about how the world could be a better place?

[14:54:41] Him: I don’t know about you but I gave that up long ago...

[14:55:03] Me: “Because The People Who Are Crazy Enough To Think They Can Change The World, Are The Ones Who Do.”

[14:55:06] Me: Let’s hope I’m crazy enough

[14:55:07] Him: And I started to just comply with the rules of this world and try to life an as happy life as I possibly can… And if that involves studying then so be it.

[14:55:24] Me: So the definition of being happy would be without any problems right? No conflict with with any rules. At the cost of your freedom (not being able to fully fill your life as you’d like? Have one certain mold to be melted into?) and to comply with what others tell you to do so they can either – Life a happy powerful life or make more profit (since you complied to work hard for them)

[14:55:34] Me: Gelukkig is dan niet meer dan zonder problemen toch?

[14:57:16] Me: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ObNDnaToHRU/TSXDfWZ8jSI/AAAAAAAAAWE/MGJcm...

[14:57:35] Him: What do you mean with at the cost of your freedom?

 [14:57:58] Me: I think what I’m trying to say is that when you say your “happy life” is coping with rules, which other people decided to be so, are suppressing you from living your real own life…
That you will never be truly free

 [14:58:15] Him: Then yes, I´d never be truly free.

[14:58:29] Me: But you´re happy?

[14:58:40] Him: yes

[14:58:58] Me: Are you though? Cause you are living a life predetermined by rules. What are you afraid of?

 [14:59:14] Him: It’s not predetermined? I just want to be happy by what makes me happy?

 [14:59:34] Me: Then why comply with their rules why not your own? Because you are scared that that may be impossible due to  not having social acceptance, not complying with laws and or society?

 [15:00:31] Him: No, because there is no alternative...

[15:00:37] Me: Why not?

[15:00:45] Him: Don’t ask me!

[15:00:45] Me: I mean, I’m asking you but I’m actually acting in the same way, currently coping with everything everybody tells me. But I’m just thinking right now…

 [15:01:06] Him: I just want to have a decent job later, and that’s all you really need to decide for yourself (I think).

 [15:01:14] Me: So basically you live to work?

[15:01:31] Him: I work to live.

[15:01:38] Me: Then what is your life? Getting away from work on Friday? Or go on holiday?

 [15:02:12] Him: It’s not realistic to think that you will do just fine and live a happy life without a job.

 [15:02:17] Me: I never said you couldn’t have a job, but by job I think you mean earning money by doing work for somebody else. (who profits off of u)

 [15:02:45] Him: If that’s what it takes...

[15:02:49] Me: To what end?

[15:02:56] Him: To live a happy life.

[15:02:58] Me: What’s your ultimate goal?

[15:03:05] Him: Happy life.

[15:03:21] Me: Happy life consists of? A nice swing? Maybe more than one? A female monkey with nice curves, a nice cage and two smaller monkeys jumping around asking for your attention? [15:03:46] Him: lol nah

 [15:03:57] Me: What is a Happy life then?

[15:04:08] Him: Waking up every morning being glad that you’re still alive is enough for me. [15:04:24] Him: But that does not mean having a expensive car (swing)

 [15:04:26] Me: Glad that you can go back to work again?

[15:04:42] Me:  Now i’m just being  a dick to you, a happy life is different for everybodoy, the odd thing is that everybody tells you to comply with current belief, such as get a degree and you’ll end up just fine. Circle of life would consist of simply put: Study – Work – Die.

 [15:05:20] Him: Chance of doing it another way is just too small to take the risk

[15:05:29] Me: So it is fear?

[15:05:32] Him: If you’re going to talk about the meaning of life I’m out.

 [15:07:04] Him: Just go pass your first year ;)